Teracube One Android 10 updates

@monadnoc finally somebody else recognizes and understands this isn’t just about “nice to have”, security patches are critical to ensure we are not at risk.

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Absolutely.

Thanks, @monadnoc and @adamsterk.

That’s something I already said months ago, I also bought another phone device because for my work I need to use a VPN service that needs to be authenticated through my phone and if this app detects that the OS on my phone might be insecure it doesn’t allow me to connect to company’s VPN.

It’s not a “nice to have” but something mandatory from the perspective of a mobile phone manufacturing company, do you think it’s safe for your customers to use your phone with security breaches when they have to connect to their bank account? or when they trade?.. Think about it.

It’s sad to buy a phone device to save for the environment but that after one year of making promises we don’t get any of them. I heard people saying that Teracube is a small company, that we have to give support to small companies… but it’s my money, it’s my work and the company is not following any of the premises they announced so for me this is something that, allegedly, can be considered misleading advertising.

On asking you about Android 10, you are always saying that it’s in progress but in the meanwhile you started selling a new mobile phone when the previous one it’s still insecure after more than a year since we bought it.

When are you providing us Android 10?
When are you providing us Android 11?

Android 12 is already in Beta and we are using Android 9.

I am sorry but this is unacceptable.

BTW I am not a hater, I am a customer who is very unhappy with the service and feels cheated by the way Teracube treats its customers.

Now I will soon maybe not able even to switch back even after an update as my AT&T sim may not connect again.

The AT&T news about dropping 3G is making me worried my Teracube won’t work with them anymore

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From Sharad…

We have a very important update for Teracube One owners that use Cricket Wireless or AT&T networks in the US. AT&T has said that they will be shutting down their 3G network in 1 year from now (Feb 2022) and they have stopped activating new phones which do not support their HD calling. As of now, Teracube One phones are working fine since they were activated before.

If you own a Teracube One please do not update or remove your SIM card .If you follow these rules your phone should continue to operate as normal while we follow up with AT&T. Read this community discussion for more details

This will affect many phones not just teracube the fact that at&t is killing off 3g at this time is actually funny since it’s the back bone for poor service areas where 4g doesn’t reach. With 5g coming and far more power required to push the signal it will be interesting to see how this all works out. They will either accept more dead zones or require more towers. I suspect the first option. Sadly I suspect they are jumping the gun a bit considering 5g adoption / roll out has been painfully slow compared to 4g/4gLTE.
But since they can force the market you will not be a lone with this problem. Many many others will be included. This is not teracube’s fault this is a choice made by a giant company.

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I saw that, i got a text from at&t saying my current phone would lose service. Plus I thought they were working on certification at one point

I’m honestly just wondering if Teracube 1 is going to be certified with AT&T or not like talked about in the past

From everything Sharad has said, the intent is to get the One certified after the 2E has finalized certification since some of the administrative overhead will be shared and it should speed up the process for the One.

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Hello everyone!

I know everyone is pretty tired of waiting on the A10 update, I know we are pretty late on it. So, I want to formally introduce myself and give you a tiny peek inside and some things that have been cooking.

About me
I’m Kshitij, also known as “AgentFabulous” on XDA. I have been involved with multiple Android opensource projects, creating new user experiences, and reversing and patching things to better support MediaTek devices on ROMs that would normally support only QCOM devices. I actively play with upstream experimental/preview/beta AOSP sources too. I have been working at Teracube, with the development team for some time now.

Current Progress
Most of you are probably waiting on the Android 10 build. The build has been resubmitted and is being certified. We’ve had the build come back a few times with some tests failing and have fixed everything now. If all goes as planned, the next time we hear back from our partner, we should have good news. The open beta test has given us a ton of great feedback and we’re still working on improving things like battery life, usability and overall user experience; the team receives feedback literally as soon as you post here.

Teracube One and Teracube 2e
I’ve read this concern a couple of times, that “with the new device the updates will slow down.” To counter this, we have unified the two projects into the same BSP to avoid long delays. While you may not see unified builds on T2e anytime soon, it allows us to speed up work for the next Android version and for when the board partner decides to stop providing support.

"Next Android version" you say?
You heard me right. With unity-firmware able to support both devices via the same codebase, porting a new version of Android to the Unity BSP we can rebase once and serve both. We have started work on Android 11 parallel to the A10 development. Here’s T1 and T2e running Android 11 (this is not a ROM or GSI, but a full WiP redo of the BSP):

This is experimental and super early but to give you context of time, this initial BSP port took just under 2 weeks. We can’t promise you of a timeline/ETA on 11 yet, but things are way closer than they appear.
Let’s talk 12: Google releases very little usable code on previews and betas. Once we have 11 under control, we will in-parallel also start porting changes to 12 to speed work up for the actual release.

That’s cool and all, what’s taking so long though?
Testing. You have probably heard about it a gazillion times from us, but I’ll be real with you, this was our first time running all test suites ourselves, internally. As a consumer, you shouldn’t have to care about it but, we feel its our responsibility to be more transparent and let you guys know of where we are, why we slowed down and what we are doing to tackle it. Running all of CTS, CTS-Verifier, CTS-on-GSI, VTS, STS and GTS from scratch on just 1-2 devices takes 2-3 weeks. We learned this pretty late. To counter it, we are now working on scaling our testing infra.

How does the community provide updates faster, as Custom ROMs?
ROMs don’t need to care of certification. We have the capacity and capability of serving uncertified beta updates on a monthly basis; we already do this internally, for the most part. From early Android porting to regular feature and security updates, it’s all super doable but not super certifiable. Some may argue that ROMs are somehow “certified” and have GPay working/SafetyNet passing. Yes, but its not as simple as it sounds. They include workarounds to spoof device identifiers to Pixel hardware, so GMS thinks the build is “certified”. (Not gonna go into how things are spoofed/worked-around on ROMs in this post, but will gladly explain if anyone is interested :D) We cannot really use such workarounds, as an OEM. That said, we are working closely with a few teams to better support MediaTek platforms on ROMs and to boost community support for Teracube Devices.

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Thank you so much, Kshitij.

Further insight into these processes is incredibly appreciated, and helps provide some context into what the delays are and what they mean.

Does the unified BSP also net us a newer kernel and other nice goodies? That will be critical for Android 12 and beyond.

I’m glad you’re involved!

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Thanks for the info @AgentFabulous

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I love all this info! I often just couldn’t figure out the TWRP project because it’s so hard to find info on mediatek for Android development. Thank you so much for this info and your work!

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Unified does not entail a new kernel, but nothing prevents us from trying and porting newer kernels. While it is possible, it isn’t top priority since bringing up a new kernel takes time, effort and extensive debugging and manual testing. Upstreaming is still doable, but porting new LTS or even mainline is not something we can do right away. We may consider this later on, once we have some update rollouts in better control. That said, even with the current downstream kernels, they are regularly patched as per Google’s Security Bulletins (STS tests will fail if we miss patches :smile:).


Most devices in terms of Custom ROMs and recoveries are pretty similar, may they be QCOM or MTK. I’d love to look through T1’s existing community work and contribute to it, but it’ll be a while before I can get around to that and get back to T2e TWRP/ROM things. @Gagan is already doing pretty cool stuff on 2e.

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Glad to report that our Android 10 build has passed GMS certification :slight_smile:. Read more and install it here.

Kudos to the Dev team, thanks for all Alpha/Beta testers and thanks to all T1 users for being patient.

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Well wife and I have upgraded to Android 10. So far seems to be working well. Only one app had a freak out but solved it. Seems to be the same to a bit better on the power usage but I did switch to dark theme now that I have 10. Camera seems to focus better than on 9. As had minor issues scanning QR codes and such in 9. I agree I do like the original start up animation better but not the end of the world as I shouldn’t need to restart to often and it is only the start up.
Blue tooth doesn’t seem to have the connection issues like 9 did but I have only been testing for 2 days. 1 day with blue tooth in car.

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Seems to be working well. It is not my daily driver now because I did have to replace while waiting but it’s a good burner or spare.

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So far so good for me as well. My only gripe would be the fact that I can’t remove the google search bar and the gigantic date from the home screen. :joy:

Really loving the dark mode and all that jazz, though. Definitely an upgrade overall.

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I’m preparing to do the Android 10 upgrade.
Will it completely wipe the apps on my phone and start with a fresh OS? Or will it keep everything intact. My largest concern is having to go through all the service I log into with 2FA using Authy/Google Authenticator applications requiring to be changed.
Cheers,
G.